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1951
Chloe Agnew / My First Chloë Concert
« on: March 10, 2018, 04:01:37 PM »
I thought I had posted a review or story about this but if I did, I can't find it. So I'll see how good my memory is after a year and a half.

A few stars had to align for this show...

The Long and Winding Road

August 28, 2016, in Shelbyville, Indiana, was the first time I ever saw Chloë Agnew perform live.  It was also the first time I met anyone from Celtic Woman (my very first Meet and Greet!

I had missed soooo many chances to see her when she was with Celtic Woman and those regrets will always haunt me. But 2016 was the year I started making up for lost time and making some of my dearest dreams come true.

As I alluded to in my Home for Christmas post, while 2016 was a year where my life more or less finally turned around, it was still quite a bumpy ride. After Chloë and her friends had sang The Rose for me, I knew I had to finally go see her live and meet her. Were it not for that YouTube video, I probably wouldn't have gone to see her (certainly not as far as I did) and I'm not sure what the second half of that year would have been like. It probably would not have been pleasant for me.

Originally, Chloë had posted on her site that she would be doing a show in Detroit later in that year, 2016. I kept waiting for tickets to become available, but I guess it didn't work out, because it eventually got replaced with a show in Pittsburgh that same date. All the people I was originally going to go see the show with in Detroit bailed on me when the show got moved, making it too far for me to travel on my own in uncertain winter road conditions. Until the Home for Christmas show later that year, I had never gone to any show on my own. I was devastated that I would have to go another year without seeing Chloë after getting my hopes so high. I love all the performers that have ever been in Celtic Woman, but Chloë is one of my absolute favourites.

She posted another show, in Indiana. It would be a pretty long drive (almost 8 hours), but at least it was in August so the roads would be fine. At that time, I couldn't really drink caffeine and any more than 4-5 hours on the road (even with stops) starts to get incredibly dangerous for me. I start getting groggy, not notice important things when driving, and I could even suddenly nod off without any way to stop it.

I didn't want to get my hopes up again, but I posted about it on Facebook to see if anyone was interested in going with me. Fortunately, one of my friends stepped up. He had someone bail on him at the last minute on a sports-related road trip he already had tickets for, so we could both help each other make our plans work out. So on about a months notice, we got everything planned and I finally had tickets to see Chloë Agnew!

He was not a Celtic Woman fan. At all. He had never heard of them and it wasn't the type of music he would think to or want to listen to. I tried to bring him up to speed on the group and especially on Chloë in the weeks that lead up to the show. I did more or less a whole series of emails, explaining the history of the group, some of their best songs, and about Chloë (before, during, after her time with Celtic Woman). To be honest, I don't think he was really interested in it or comfortable talking about it. I don't think watched many of those videos i sent, but he was nice about it at least.

I was already going to be a long drive, but it became even longer with construction delays and when my friend realized he had left his passport at home about an hour into the drive. We tried to turn around, but there was construction in the opposite direction and it ended up adding almost 3 hours to our already long drive.

The good thing was that one the way, I started playing my Celtic Woman CDs and Chloë CDs for him ( couldn't get away on a highway, could you buddy  ;) ). He liked Chloë's voice, but most of her recorded work is slow and soft, which isn't his thing. He was really into Eabha's voice though. In fact, he liked it so much, I actually got him to come to a Voices of Angels concert the next year and he brought some of his other friends!

The drive was really long and my GPS got lost somewhere in Indiana and wouldn't route properly anymore. We eventually got to where we needed to get, but it was WAY closer than I was hoping. We almost got killed a few times on the highway a few times too. We got to the hotel in Shelbyville just over an hour before the Meet and Greet started. At least we made it, though.


Meeting Chloë

We had trouble parking near the venue. I don't remember exactly what happened, but it cost us a bit more time. By the time we got to the Meet and Greet, there were already about 40 people in line, so we were near the back. The Meet and Greet was inside the theatre, in front of the stage, so we were lined up along the right wall. I rushed out of the line for a moment to check at the merch table, but I already had everything there (I had gotten it through one of Chloë's online StageIt shows earlier in the year). I had forgotten to bring her CDs and DVD for her to sign. I figured there would be something new there. I wasn't quite thinking clearly, so I didn't end up grabbing a poster from the venue for her to sign (more on that later).

Chloë came out a few minutes after we got there. My heart was really beating like crazy. I was about to meet one of my favourite singers in the world and I am just horribly awkward in person, especially when it comes to talking. What if I messed up this chance after waiting for soooo long? As it came to my turn in line, I was super-excited, but really nervous too. She meant the world to me, but would she even recognize me or care who I was? Surely she had many more significant fans.

As soon as I got tickets to the show, I had started changing my profile pic on social media to an actual pic of me. Prior to that, I didn't use actual pictures of myself as I was self-conscious and not in a particularly good place mentally. But before 2016, I had almost no public presence on social media whatsoever and was pretty sure Chloë would have no idea who I was unless I showed her what I looked like. Chloë sometimes isn't the most communicative on social media though, so I really had no idea if she had even seen any of my posts to her that I was coming to the show.

Finally, it was my turn to see her! She smiled at me and I ran over to her in a way that must have looked like an excited little child on Christmas morning. She greeted me by name, so she DID recognize me! I was so surprised, every last thought of what I wanted to say to her just slipped away. I gave her a great big hug and it was seriously one of the happiest moments of my life. <3

One of my fears did end up coming true. My high degree of social anxiety ended up showing itself. I could barely speak at all. Most of the time, I just ended up smiling at her awkwardly as she talked. She thanked me for coming, asked me how far I'd traveled and was impressed when I told her. She said she was really grateful that I came and to finally meet me. I have no idea how I wasn't crying all over the floor by that point, but I just kept smiling at her awkwardly while she did her best to fill the silence. LOL!

She was so sweet! I got to take some pictures with her. The ones from this first Meet and Greet I wasn't terribly thrilled with, but I learned a lot that I could apply to my subsequent Meet and Greets.

I awkwardly gave her the gifts I had brought her. There was a custom card I made her. It had taken a while as it was the first one I had done, but it turned out great! At least I had had the presence to realize in advance I wouldn't be able to say all the things I wanted to, about how grateful I was to her and how much her music had meant to me over the years. The gift bag also contained some yummy treats for her and a special surprise that had arrived literally the day before. #nailbiter

I got her to sign my ticket since that's pretty much the only thing I had with me.

I hugged her again (her hugs are AMAZING) and then took a seat in the 4 rows closest to the stage, which were reserved for people who got Meet and Greet tickets.

After the end of the Meet and Greet line, Chloë did a Q+A up on stage and gave us Meet-and-Greeters an exclusive pre-show song. I can't remember if I asked anything during the Q+A.

After that, she went back stage for a bit and they opened the theatre to the regular ticket holders.

Then, at last, it was finally time to see my first ever Chloë concert!

Stay tuned for Part 2, which I'll probably tomorrow. Thanks for reading so far!

1952
Chloe Agnew / The Rose (by Chloë and some of her friends)
« on: March 10, 2018, 02:42:35 PM »
I mentioned a little while back that Chloë and her friends were working on a song for me. I gave them a list of songs and let them pick their favorite.

Here it is!

;D

The Rose (Bette Midler)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYOXdwzXvtY

From left to right in the video:
  • Mary Bee
  • Chloë Agnew
  • Danielle W. Carter
  • Kate Steinway

Seems like they spent quite a bit of time working on this and it turned out great!

Thank you sooooo much to Chloë and her friends for such an amazing song!  It's beautiful and it means the world to me!

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I hope you all enjoy it as much as I did.

Edit: I'm definitely going to post more about these lovely ladies on the forum. They're some of the very few artists in the world that make me feel as wonderful as Celtic Woman.

1953
Setting the Stage

It had been about 9 months since my very first live Celtic Woman experience. It had been an up and down year that included my first Meet and Greet with any performer: Chloë Agnew. <3  Powered by the immense joy and of Celtic Woman: Destiny, Chloë, and all the great things that surrounded them (including the forums and the new friends I made online), it had been my happiest year overall in a very long time.

That said, I was once again exhausted from work and the various other challenges of life. I was getting pretty desperate to meet Celtic Woman, especially Tara, who had been soooo kind to me on social media.

Here's the story I originally posted (with some minor tweaking) once I returned home from the show.


Adapted from my original post on December 15, 2016

On December 13th, 2016, I saw the Home for Christmas tour live at the Dow Event Center in Saginaw, Michigan.

My memory is poor to begin with and I was pretty overwhelmed by the whole show, so instead of posting a formal review song by song, I'll give an overall impression and some notes about some special things that stood out. This will be more a story than a formal review.

Quest to Meet the Girls

My plan was to try to meet the girls, but I wasn't going in with high expectations about that because I knew it was a long shot, especially with it being so cold outside. (Edit: It was about 10 F before the wind-chill, I think).

There were a couple of spots I thought they might go if they ventured out, but none of those panned out. I'm pretty sure they stayed at the venue as it was not pleasant outdoors (cold to begin with and brutal windchill) ... as well most over the sidewalks were  poorly shoveled (mostly un-shoveled). Walking through almost a foot of snow in certain places in dress shoes wasn't particularly pleasant. After close to a couple of hours of walking around the venue and around the river (the frozen Saginaw river was actually quite pretty), I had to call it quits and go check in at the hotel and warm up.

I did see the tour buses behind the venue, but they were really close to the back of the building. I hung around briefly after the show, but ultimately decided that trying to talk to them wasn't practical this time. To get close enough to be able to stop the girls between the stage door and the bus, I would have had to pretty much get right up to the bus and there wasn't any other fans hanging around there waiting for them that I could see. But more importantly, it was really cold and I decided it would be inappropriate for me to force the ladies to stop in the cold. As badly as I wanted to meet them, I wasn't willing to risk their health / voices.

I wasn't really holding out much hope to meet the girls outside the venue this time, so I wasn't too disappointed relative to my expectations.

What was disappointing is that once I got into the theater for the show, I saw a group of people with Meet and Greet stickers on (and someone who I assume was the PBS rep). Well...that was a bit of a surprise. I thought I had a pretty good look for Meet and Greets for this show, but I guess I either missed it or they were sold before I started looking right after they posted the tour dates. I asked what PBS station it was, but honestly I don't remember because my brain was in shock and wasn't processing things. It was something obscure though. I was pretty upset with myself, but if they sold the tickets on PBS before I knew about the show, it's not entirely my fault.

I pleaded for anyone that wanted to sell me their tickets and asked if anyone had extras (ie. if they had other people in their party that hadn't been able to make it) and if I could go in their place at cost. That didn't work, but at least I tried (not sure what I was thinking asking to buy tickets honestly since I didn't have hundreds of dollars in cash on me ... in case you were wondering).

Oh well. I was upset but brushed that negativity aside pretty quickly so I could enjoy the show. It wasn't the first potential Meet and Greet that's passed me by.

Anyways, to prevent this sort of thing from happening to me yet again, I will begin making a list of ALL the PBS stations in my driving range or anywhere I might want to fly and I'll start checking them 1-2 times a week for as long as it takes until I get my M+G tickets. Somewhere, some time, I'm going to meet them. I don't think I've ever wanted anything so badly in my life.

Edit: I did end up doing this and it actually worked!!!


The Show

This was only the second Celtic Woman concert I've seen live. My first Celtic Woman concert was Destiny back in March of this year (edit: 2016).

The dresses look even better live than in pictures. My gosh the girls looked so stunning!

Eabha had a new upstyle hairdo courtesy of Amy Murphy. It was unexpected but really pretty. I normally prefer longer hair rather than having it all scrunched up in a bun, but this style did suit Eabha very well.

Mairead Carlin ... WOW! One thing about Destiny is that it didn't let her really let lose in a solo. She sounded fantastic in Destiny, but her performance in Home for Christmas blew me away! Ave Maria was of course fantastic. But what REALLY astounded me was We Three Kings (with Anto). She did that thing where her voice transcended into "Opera Mode" and oh my goodness was it ever spectacular!!!

The girls took a moment to announce Voices of Angels debuted at #1 on the Billboard World Album and Classical charts and that they Destiny had been nominated for a Grammy! They thanked the audience and all their fans for the wonderful support that allows them to do what they love.

Mairead Carlin (I think it was her, it's kind of a blur), dedicated My Heart Will Go On to all the people who had lost a friend or loved one over the past year. I have to say, I wasn't the biggest fan of the song before Celtic Woman sang it. Sure, it was a great song, but I always found it a bit too sappy to fully enjoy it (I know some people won't understand why I didn't love it before, but it's the truth). I very much enjoyed the Celtic Woman version from Voices of Angels. After hearing the dedication and then hearing them sing it to perfection live ... this song has taken on a whole new depth of meaning for me.

Celtic Woman is one of the few things that can actually make me cry. There were several times during this show when I just couldn't help myself. It was just too beautiful.


Tara

This concert was the first time I got to see Tara live! She looked stunning of course and my gosh was she ever good. "What Child Is This" was incredibly beautiful. Across the World was really impressive! Like we saw in the Facebook live video recently, Tara can really move around the stage! She plays energetically, runs back and forth, and spins around, all while playing at a frenetic pace.

I was a little surprised at the audience reaction. I mean they seemed to enjoy it and appreciate it, but I was literally the only person in the audience (that I know of or that I could hear) that was clapping along. I get it if people wanted to just enjoy the music and I was probably irritating some people around me by clapping, but come on! Tara wants you to clap along! Show her some support! If you don't clap along, she might think she's doing something wrong.

Tara appreciated me getting into it though (more on that in a bit).

If you're reading this Tara, some audiences are just like that I guess, a bit on the reserved side when it comes to things like clapping along and standing ovations and that sort of thing, as I'm sure you've realized by now. They love you, just have a more reserved way of showing it.

Honestly, what I found most endearing about Tara was her adorable and genuine joy at performing as part of Celtic Woman. I know all the girls love it, but Tara REALLY shows it. They introduced Tara near the start of the show and she said a few words about how she had dreamed of being up on stage performing as part of Celtic Woman and how thrilled she is to be living that dream now. She thanked the fans for being so supportive and welcoming right from the start. It's nothing we haven't already heard her say, but what struck me this time is that she was legitimately holding back tears when she was saying this stuff ... and so was I.

After the show, I Tweeted the girls telling them how much I loved the show. Tara replied saying she was glad I enjoyed it. Since I didn't get to meet Tara and tell her in person, I Tweeted a bit of what I wanted to say to her: that they couldn't have picked a better person in the world to join Celtic Woman and that my only regret from the evening was not getting to meet her. I think she was genuinely touched by that. She let me know that she wished she could have met met too, but that she noticed me in the audience. That let me know that she appreciated how much I was enjoying the show. While she made my day, I'm glad and flattered that I helped make her day too.

It seems like such a simple Tweet, but what she Tweeted (and more importantly the way she did it), meant everything in the world to me. I thought a couple of times during the show she was looking at me (like when she was talking about living her dream and being grateful for all the love and support, and when I was apparently the only one in the audience audibly clapping along to Across the World). I was in the third row from stage so I was close enough to see. I figured she was just looking out into the audience, but I guess she really noticed. I don't know for sure but I think she noticed how much some of the songs were moving me. She gave me that kind of adorable "aww, thank you" look a few times. What really struck me is how thoughtful and sweet she is, not just with me obviously, but with all her fans.

Thank you soooo much Tara! You're such a talented performer and wonderful person!


Some Favourite Moments

- Mairead Carlin's voice in We Three Kings ... WOW!!!!!!!!
- Across the World
- Mo Ghile Mear
- My Heart Will Go On (dedication and song)
- Tara


Overall Impression

The orchestration, the girls, the harmony ... it was all spectacular! Like I Tweeted the girls (at intermission actually), this was the best concert I have ever seen in my life! Now granted, this was only my second Celtic Woman concert, but still ... I'm in my 30s and this is legitimately my favourite concert ever. I enjoyed every song.

The first part of the show had more "energy" songs than the second half. I thoroughly enjoyed the first half. The back half of the show took it to another level. Almost every song was so beautiful and was arranged / performed so flawlessly, they had me fending off tears for almost the whole second half of the show. I didn't want it to ever end.

Of the Voices of Angels songs, I seemed to enjoy the live versions even more than the album versions, if that's possible. For those out there reading this that haven't seen them live, please go see them! They're the best in the world. The girls sound amazing live like you wouldn't believe and seeing their emotion and feeling their energy when they're performing is an experience like no other.

Even though I didn't get to meet the girls, this was definitely the best concert I've ever had and one of the best experiences of my life.

Thank you Celtic Woman, from the bottom of my heart.

- Tom

1954
To continue on with my tour experience stories, the 2nd time I saw Celtic Woman live was on the Home For Christmas tour in December 2016.  This show has some back story from the months leading up to it, which is the story of how Celtic Woman touched my heart and why I love them so much.  This is a few months after I had seen the Destiny tour. 

This was a very rough time of my life, caused by my job.  I was in a position where I was the only person handling that specific work load, which kept steadily increasing.  I had the worst supervisor I have ever had, who either couldn't or wouldn't understand that the increase in work load had made it so that it should have been two people instead of just me.  I was under constant pressure to have every single thing done.  It was much more than a single person could ever do in a work day.  Taking vacation or even getting sick was impossible.  The company kept growing, the work load kept increasing, and my stress was growing worse and worse by the day.  I was so mentally exhausted that on nights and weekends the only thing I could manage to do was collapse onto the couch.  I went a few months straight without seeing any of my friends because I couldn't handle doing anything other than laying on the couch when I wasn't working.  Depression was setting in.  The level of exhaustion was such that I didn't have the energy to search for a different job and I couldn't quit because I needed the pay check, so I was trapped.

Celtic Woman was my shining light during that horrible time.  It happened by a very fortunate accident.  My office was under construction for an expansion.  That expansion was happening very close to my work space, so the construction noise was very loud.  In an effort to drown out the noise, I started listening to music while working, which is a very common thing for many people, but it just wasn't something I had been doing.  Celtic Woman was of course my music of choice as my favorite artists.  That's when I made the amazing magical discovery that listening to Celtic Woman took my stress away.  It was incredible, almost unreal.  Each day when I turned the music on, I could actually feel myself calming down.  Celtic Woman made the job bearable.  It was them specifically too - anytime I switched my ipod to a different artist, I would find myself craving the beautiful music from my favorite ladies.  Listening to them while working felt so good it became like a drug.  My need to hear their music was so strong.  It's hard to describe.  I know for a fact that there are several days that I would have walked out and quit if I didn't have their music to soothe me.  Quitting would have put me and my husband in a very rough financial situation, so it really wasn't an option.  Celtic Woman saved me and pulled me through.  Thankfully, I no longer work in that position or under that supervisor.  I'm in a good position now.  I still listen to my favorite ladies while I'm working, but now it's only because I love the music so much, not because I need it.

A couple of things happened during this time period.  One was that Voices of Angels was released.  I don't think there's any way I could ever fully explain how much that album means to me because it came out right during the time that I desperately needed it.  I love that album so much, it's so incredibly beautiful.  The introduction to Tara - oh my goodness, I fell in love with her the moment I first heard her play on that album.  I also had never previously heard Mairead's full vocal range the way it's showcased on VoA - holy smokes chica!  Susan and Eabha, absolutely incredible.  The amazing harmonies.  Love Voices of Angels!

The other thing that happened was that the Home For Christmas tour was approaching.  The tour wasn't coming anywhere near me.  I live in the suburbs of Minneapolis and the closest they were getting was in the suburbs of Chicago, about a 7 hour drive.  I wanted to see the wonderful ladies so badly, it was actually more than a want.  It was something I needed for my own mental sanity.  I thankfully have a wonderful husband who was completely on board and we bought our tickets and planned out our weekend getaway.  In the weeks leading up to the show, work was still awful, but I was so incredibly excited for the show.  We ended up needing to drive down a day earlier than planned due to a snow storm coming in.  The snow storm made the drive about 10 hours, during which we listened to every Celtic Woman album in order, singing along the entire time.

The night of the show finally arrived and it was everything I dreamed of and more.  They somehow managed to exceed my extremely high expectations.  The music was so incredibly beautiful.  I was thrilled that they performed about half of Voices of Angels along with the Christmas music.  The orchestra was fantastic.  This was my first time seeing Tara live and she was so amazing.  Eabha's Silent Night was gorgeous.  Susan's The Christmas Song was gorgeous.  Mairead's Ave Maria & We Three Kings were both jaw-droppers.  And we were sitting up in the balcony and Anto came out right next to us playing his bagpipes.  When they sang You Raise Me Up I started crying thinking about how they were the ones raising me up.  It was an incredible, magical evening that I so desperately needed.  I loved every single moment of it.  It was perfect.

Thanks for reading my book, sorry it got so long!  The stories of my tour experiences will continue with Voices of Angels!

This is one of the reasons I love the forums. So often I feel alone in this world, in my struggles and joys. This is a great place for sharing our love of this wonderful group and the ways in which they've touched our lives. I'll port my Homecoming tour post from the other forum over here shortly. :)

1955
Destiny / Re: My first Celtic Woman concert
« on: March 09, 2018, 07:21:28 PM »
was nice to read about your first concert.

I vividly remember ours some 11 years or so ago.......   
we have been to many places to see them.  Powerscourt , Atlanta,  Texas,  Colorado, Las Vegas, Seattle, Portland, SF bay Area,
This will be our first year not seeing a show...... nothing in our local area and vacations are already spoken for this year =(

Aww. I'm sorry you're not able to see them this tour.

Sounds like you've had a lot of great experiences supporting them though.

1956
HomeComing on Tour / Re: Facebook Live Videos
« on: March 09, 2018, 07:19:38 PM »
Here's the link to the live version of the new extra-percussive "Homecoming Lament" and "Homeland" from the opening of the Homecoming tour show at The Fox Theatre in Atlanta.

https://www.facebook.com/celticwoman/videos/10156207153492838/

I love both of these!


1957
Celtic Woman / Re: Favorite Songs
« on: March 08, 2018, 12:25:16 AM »
Yes, it's quite challenging just to narrow some of these down to 3.

Celtic Woman:
     Nella Fantasia
     The Soft Goodbye
     Somewhere (I'm counting the Bonus Tracks as part of the album)

A Christmas Celebration:
     O Come All Ye Faithful
     O Holy Night
     Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas

A New Journey:
     Sing Out! (I'm including Bonus Tracks)
     Mo Ghile Mear
     Beyond the Sea
     
A Celtic Family Christmas:
     The First Noel
     Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring
     In the Bleak Midwinter

The Greatest Journey:
     You Raise Me Up (my favourite version of this song ever performed by Celtic Woman)
     The Call
     Mo Ghile Mear

Songs from the Heart:
     The New Ground / Isle of Hope, Isle of Tears
     Amazing Grace
     Galway Bay

Lullaby:
     Goodnight My Angel
     When You Wish Upon A Star
     Brahms' Lullaby

Believe (Japan):
     Princess Toyotomi
     Princess Toyotomi (Film Version)

An Irish Journey:
     Mo Ghile Mear
     Granuaile's Dance
     Isle of Inisfree

A Celtic Christmas:
     O Come All Ye Faithful
     O Holy Night
     Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas

Believe:
     The Parting Glass
     Songs from the Heart: Walking the Night/The World Falls Away
     Follow On

Home for Christmas:
     Hark The Herald Angels Sing
     Joy To The World
     Silent Night

Silent Night:
     O Come All Ye Faithful
     O Holy Night
     Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas

Irish Songs:
     Mo Ghile Mear
     Níl Sé'n Lá
     Spanish Lady

Emerald:
     The Parting Glass
     Mo Ghile Mear
     You Raise Me Up / Danny Boy (tie)

O Christmas Tree:
     O Tanenbaum
     It Came Upon a Midnight Clear
     The Light of Christmas Morn

Destiny:
     My Land
     Westering Home
     Like An Angel Passing Through My Room

Christmas (Icon, 2015):
     Hark the Herald Angels Sing
     Joy To The World
     O Come All Ye Faithful

Voices of Angels:
     Mo Ghile Mear (My Gallant Star)
     Across the World
     O, America! (2016 Version)

The Best Of Christmas:
     O Come, All Ye Faithful
     O Holy Night
     Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas

Homecoming - Live from Ireland:
     Mo Ghile Mear (My Gallant Star)
     The Kesh Inn
     For the Love of a Princess

Ancient Land:
     Homeland
     Long Journey Home
     Garden of Eden

1958
Destiny / My first Celtic Woman concert
« on: March 07, 2018, 11:17:12 PM »
This St. Patrick's Day, March 17, marks the two year anniversary of the first Celtic Woman concert I ever saw.

Things had been getting worse and worse for quite a long time and by December of 2015 I was in a pretty sorry state of mind. I tuned into the Destiny PBS special almost by accident. I didn't even know it was on until I stumbled across it in the listings and started watching 8 minutes after it started. That special aired at the time when I needed it the most, so it had a profound impact on me. I absolutely fell in love with My Land and Westering Home and I couldn't stop playing them.

During the special, they showed some of the upcoming tour dates, including the shows on the Christmas tour that year. I saw that one of the shows was in my hometown. I didn't go to concerts then (it had probably been 15 years since I had been to one and I just didn't feel like doing much of anything). But I loved Destiny so much that I got interested. I checked if there were any tickets left for that show, but it was sold out.  :'(

I actually wasn't even going to go see Destiny, but I was so obsessed with the music that I shared it with my family over the Christmas holidays. That was really the first time in a long time (probably since 2007) I had even mentioned it to someone. Celtic Woman was just one of my secret loves, I suppose.

Some people in my family liked it. Not quite as I did, but enough that it got their interest. They could see how happy Celtic Woman was making me, so they suggested that we go to together to see a nearby show on the upcoming Destiny tour. I was a bit skeptical at the time. While I was excited about finally seeing them, I was also pretty worried. From my limited past experience at concerts, my impression was that music rarely sounds as good live as it does on an album or a DVD. I was scared that if I saw them and I didn't love them as much live, it would destroy the bubble of joy that they had finally created for me. At the time, that would have been incredibly dangerous, since I didn't love anything more than them and their beautiful harmony.

While I loved the music, I didn't follow the performers as closely then as I do today. I knew the group had changed considerably over time though. I didn't know how the other fans were going to react to Destiny. It was so different than the group's previous work. Not all my family members reacted positively to Destiny. I read a few reviews, but I must have encountered a bad selection of them from disenchanted long-time fans (and some ill-informed fans), because they weren't encouraging. As silly as it may sound that was really the moment that changed my life. As scared as I was that the "live experience" wouldn't meet my expectations, I grew terrified that if I didn't see them on the Destiny tour, I might never get another chance to see them. It was at that moment that I realized that Celtic Woman wasn't just a group I liked, it was one of the most important things in my life. I decided I had to go see them and support them, no matter what.

On March 17, 2016, I saw Destiny in Detroit. The excitement of finally getting to see them had been gradually pulling me out of an extended depression. When they finally came out on to the stage, I just started crying. Destiny was more than I could have dreamed of. I loved every moment, even more than the PBS special! They all looked so lovely and sounded gorgeous beyond words.

I was seated in the first few rows (third or fourth, I think) to the left side of the stage (to the right for the girls as they faced the audience). The audience was pretty reserved, I thought. I started clapping along to When You Go (I think I was so excited I started clapping to Ride On too  ::) ). I was sensing the people beside me thought there was something wrong with me, but I didn't really care. I lip-sync'd along to most of the songs. The girls seemed to appreciate it and that made me feel really great, like I was finally giving back to the group that, over time, had come to mean to world to me.

The theater was probably about half full. I was actually really surprised there were that few people for a show on St. Patrick's Day. But then again, as I had gone through had times in the preceding years, so too had the city of Detroit. The audience that was there was pretty reserved. There was a decent amount of clapping along during Mairead Nesbitt's songs, but other than that, they seemed to enjoy it without getting very enthusiastic. Then again, I was excited out of my mind, so anyone else's reaction would have seem subdued by comparison.

The evening was kind of a blur, but here are some of the other things I remember from the show:
- Mairead Nesbitt saw me crying and how much I was enjoying the show. She smiled at me. <3
- I knew Glenn and Ronan had just been recently on the Ellen show. They had just returned for the show I saw and I believe that was the very first show where they performed their Adele medley on the Destiny tour.
- The audience was pretty reserved.
- The seat I was in was set up over top of the orchestra pit. The board was pretty wobbly. Before the show and during intermission, it felt like I was on a boat as people moved around.
- Before the show, at the merch table, I talked to someone who was wondering if the red-head was still in the show. I wasn't entirely sure if he was referring to the french model whose name has been lost to time or Lisa Lambe, but although I was somewhat behind on my knowledge of the group then, I assured him I was quite sure neither was in the show. He expressed disappointment, but I reassured him that regardless of who was in the group, it would probably be good.
- I got a program and a "Shh..not till I'm done listening to Celtic Woman mug." I love that thing! <3

At the time, I still didn't understand how Meet and Greets worked. I knew they were expensive, but I hadn't figured out the PBS pledge drives yet. I was aware of the concept of stage and greets, but while I considered it briefly, the show was in downtown Detroit. While it's gotten better over the years, that place still scares the heck of me. I opted not to hang around the venue.

Celtic Woman Destiny restored my faith in concerts and solidified my appreciation for the group. I felt compelled to share my love of Celtic Woman with others for the first time and counteract some of the heartbreaking opinions I had read while I was going through reviews for the show. I finally got into social media and the various fan forums so that I could have a voice in supporting the group I loved so dearly.

Destiny (and all that surrounded it) came along at a time when I needed it most. It was by far the best and most meaningful concert I had ever seen. Destiny changed my life and it will always have a very special place in my heart. <3

1959
Destiny / Re: My Destiny Tour Experience - June 2016
« on: March 07, 2018, 09:48:30 PM »
Good morning! With the Homecoming tour launching, I thought it would be fun to share my experiences at the previous tours I've attended. The stories of my concert experiences also tell my story of how Celtic Woman touched my heart and helped me through some rough times. Destiny was the first time I saw Celtic Woman live, so I'm starting here.

A little bit of background for context - my husband and I have been fans of Celtic Woman since I think 2007. I would say we were somewhere in between being casual fans and being huge fans. We owned all the albums and dvds, which we listened to and watched frequently. We loved the music, but at the same time we had never gone to one of the concerts, we weren't following any social media pages and we weren't paying attention to the lineup changes. We would just get the new music and kinda go, oh that's a new person and that other person must have left. Ok, they're still putting out great music, so whatever.

At the beginning of 2016, we heard that the Destiny album was going to be released and we also heard that the tour would be coming to a venue only 15 miles from us. We decided we should buy the album first and then decide if we wanted to get concert tickets. The first time I listened to Destiny, honestly the first thought that popped into my head was that it blew everything I had ever heard before out of the water. I loved it so much and immediately told my hubby we needed those concert tickets.

Our concert was in June. We had already heard from some relatives in another state that they had seen and loved the show. While we had been listening to Destiny in the months leading up to the show, we still weren't paying any attention to social media or anything. The day of the concert, we had no idea who was even in the group except for Mairead Nesbitt. We wouldn't have been able to match names to faces or voices for the other ladies, so at dinner before the show, we were doing online searches to find out who they each were. That's so funny to think back on now, especially since we had the cd booklet, but that's what happened!

We both thought the show was absolutely incredible! We were in awe of how insanely gorgeous the girls and their voices were live. We loved that pretty much the entire Destiny album was performed, only missing Tir Na Nog, which I would still love to see live someday. We also were thrilled to hear Celtic Woman classics that we had been listening to for years, such as Orinoco Flow and Danny Boy. We were just blown away by the entire concert.  As we drove home, we were talking about each of them by name and what we loved about each of them. We were also kicking ourselves for never having seen them live before. What were we thinking!?

It was after the Destiny concert that we started following them on social media. One of the first things I saw was a post by Mairead Carlin saying that the audience of the show I was at was unreal. I thought that was awesome. I also, no joke, had Destiny on replay in my car for about two straight weeks because I didn't want to turn it off.

So that's my Destiny concert experience. Thanks for reading! Seeing Destiny live was the point at which hubby and I changed from being fans of Celtic Woman to being mega fans. We would see them live again six months later, and that'll be my next write-up on the Home For Christmas board!

Tracie

It think we've followed similar paths.  ;)

1960
Destiny / Destiny: Chart Performance
« on: March 07, 2018, 09:10:27 PM »
Album

Billoboard World Albums chart

Weeks on Chart:   64
Debut Position:1
Peak Position:1
Weeks at #1:11
Chart Debut:February 6, 2016
Peak Date:February 6, 2016
Last Chart Date:April 29, 2017

Source:
Original: https://www.billboard.com/music/celtic-woman/chart-history/world-albums/song/962025
Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20190929035431/http://www.billboard.com/music/celtic-woman/chart-history/world-albums/song/962025


Billoboard 200 chart

Weeks on Chart:   1
Peak Position:60
Weeks at Peak:1
Peak Date:February 6, 2016

Source:
https://www.billboard.com/music/celtic-woman/chart-history/billboard-200/song/962025


US iTunes chart

Days on Chart:6
Debut Position:38
Peak Position:38
Weeks at Peak:1
Peak Date:January 15, 2016

Source:

Original:
http://www.itunescharts.net/us/artists/music/celtic-woman/
http://www.itunescharts.net/us/artists/music/celtic-woman/albums/destiny/

Archived:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200501034458/http://www.itunescharts.net/us/artists/music/celtic-woman/
https://web.archive.org/web/20200501042135/http://www.itunescharts.net/us/artists/music/celtic-woman/albums/destiny/



DVD
Destiny


Billoboard Music Video Sales chart

Weeks on Chart:   23
Peak Position:1
Peak Date:February 13, 2016
Chart Debut:February 6, 2016




Week by Week:

World Music Charts:

Source: http://www.billboard.com/charts/world-albums


Week   of...         Chart Position

Feb 06, 2016      1
Feb 13, 2016      1
Feb 20, 2016      1
Feb 27, 2016      1

Mar 05, 2016      1
Mar 12, 2016      1
Mar 19, 2016      2
Mar 26, 2016      1

Apr 02, 2016      2
Apr 09, 2016      3
Apr 16, 2016      1
Apr 23, 2016      2
Apr 30, 2016      2

May 07, 2016      2
May 14, 2016      4
May 21, 2016      3
May 28, 2016      2

Jun 04, 2016      3
Jun 11, 2016      1
Jun 18, 2016      2
Jun 25, 2016      1

Jul 02, 2016      1
Jul 09, 2016      2
Jul 16, 2016      4
Jul 23, 2016      3
Jul 30, 2016      5

Aug 06, 2016      4
Aug 13, 2016      5
Aug 20, 2016      6
Aug 27, 2016      6

Sep 03, 2016      6
Sep 10, 2016      10
Sep 17, 2016      10
Sep 24, 2016      8

Oct 01, 2016      9
Oct 08, 2016      10
Oct 15, 2016      10
Oct 22, 2016      14
Oct 29, 2016      13

Nov 05, 2016      14
Nov 12, 2016      15
Nov 19, 2016      -
Nov 26, 2016      15

Dec 03, 2016      13
Dec 10, 2016      11
Dec 17, 2016      5
Dec 24, 2016      4
Dec 31, 2016      5

Jan 07, 2017      6
Jan 14, 2017      9
Jan 21, 2017      12
Jan 28, 2017      10

Feb 04, 2017      11
Feb 11, 2017      12
Feb 18, 2017      14
Feb 25, 2017      11

Mar 04, 2017      13
Mar 11, 2017      9
Mar 18, 2017      12
Mar 25, 2017      7

Apr 01, 2017      6
Apr 08, 2017      7
Apr 15, 2017      9

Apr 22, 2017      15
Apr 29, 2017      14
May 06, 2017      -
...




Billboard Music Video Sales chart

Week of...         Chart Position

Feb 05, 2016      11
Feb 13, 2016      1
Feb 20, 2016      14
Feb 27, 2016      19
Mar 03, 2016      18
Mar 12, 2016      21
Mar 26, 2016      17
Apr 02, 2016      10
Apr 09, 2016      10
Apr 16, 2016      11
Apr 23, 2016      13
Apr 30, 2016      16
May 07, 2016      14
May 14, 2016      15
May 21, 2016      16
May 28, 2016      12
Jun 04, 2016      19
Jun 11, 2016      10
Jun 18, 2016      14
Jun 25, 2016      13
Jul 02, 2016      20
Jul 09, 2016      22
Jul 16, 2016      21




Thoughts:

The album debuted on Feb 06, 2016 at #1  :D

It spent 64 weeks on the World Music charts, including:
  • 11 weeks at #1
  • 37 weeks in the top 10 to open its run
  • 48 total weeks in top 10
  • A string of 41 consecutive weeks on the chart
  • A string of 23 consecutive weeks on the chart after dipping out of the top 15 for a single week

During its run, it dropped out of the charts only once: Nov 19, 2016.

The album's last appearance on the chart was April 29, 2017.

The astonishing chart dominance of Celtic Woman's earlier albums remains unmatched, but I'd say Destiny did extremely well considering the challenges it had to face:
- The first album to not feature any of the original Celtic Woman singers as principal performers (Meav was a guest singer and of course the musical director)
- The first album without David Downes at the helm
- It feature a sound that was very different from their previous albums

The group had already been around for over 11 years when Destiny released. The novelty of the group and its revolutionary sound had worn off a bit and as people's favourite singers moved on, it eroded some of the long-time fan base. But Destiny's performance shows that there's still quite a few very loyal fans out there. I think it's also evidence that the group is continuing to make new fans.

Destiny became the first (and so far only) Celtic Woman album to ever be nominated for a Grammy Award. Although it didn't win, I think the nomination and the excitement surrounding it re-energized parts of the established fan base. It also drew in new fans and brought a level of attention to Celtic Woman that hadn't been achieved in a while.

I'm sure Destiny meant different things to different people. It meant the world to me. Destiny quite honestly changed my life. It was the beginning of the end of many unhappy years for me. It motivated me to go see Celtic Woman on tour for the first time after years of missed concerts. It got me involved in social media and the forums. This album and all the good things that have transpired because of it have made me happier than I've been in a long time.

Thank you so much to everyone involved in this album, to all the fans who supported Destiny, and to all the loyal and passionate Celtic Woman fans who, over the years and all the changes, have kept the flame and still believe. <3

1961
Amy Rivard / Re: Meeting Amy
« on: March 07, 2018, 08:53:43 PM »
Sounds amazing, thanks for sharing! And you got great pictures!

Aww. Thank you.

1962
Amy Rivard / Meeting Amy
« on: March 07, 2018, 01:08:37 AM »
On September 29, 2017, I finally met Amy Rivard at the Astor Room in New York and saw her perform live!

I showed up before her show to meet her and to give her some gifts. She really liked them, especially the card.  I got Candy Canadiana her own gifts too. :D I didn't get to meet Candy, but she was apparently very appreciative.  I also got Amy to sign some pics for me and she even gave me some swag!

Amy took me on a tour of the Astor Room. I didn't get to see the basement, but I had to save something for the next time, right?

I also got to meet someone else from my home town (I'll give you a hint, it's the same as Amy's) that happened to be in New York to see Amy on the same night. It's a small world.

I stayed for Amy's whole show and I really enjoyed it. Performing with Amy were Georgia Weber on double-bass and a new piano player she was performing with for the first time that night. I thought the set was great and of course, Amy sounded fantastic. She was very funny as well.

I got to meet Georgia after the show on the subway too!



Here's a video clip I took of her performing at The Astor Room:

https://youtu.be/K4XO8Ac7aoc

I have quite a few more video clips, but apparently never got around to editing and uploading them.  ::)


Here's a few of my pics:












I even got one of my photos posted in a magazine in Queens  :o











I definitely want to go back and see Amy again!

I got to meet Amy once more since then, last Christmas, just outside our hometown. It's absolutely crazy it took so long for me to meet her but I'm really glad I finally did!

1963
HomeComing / Re: Homecoming album: In the charts
« on: March 07, 2018, 12:17:14 AM »
Considering the album was essentially a live Voices of Angels with a few (albeit amazing) extra songs, I think it's doing pretty well in the charts so far.

Hopefully it will get to #1 soon now that the Homecoming tour has started.  :)

Keep sharing your love of the album and of Celtic Woman with all your friends and family.

1964
HomeComing / Homecoming: Chart Performance
« on: March 07, 2018, 12:14:56 AM »
Album

Billoboard World Albums chart

As of September 24, 2018

Weeks on Chart:   27
Debut Position:2
Peak Position:2
Weeks at Peak:3
Chart Debut:February 10, 2018
Peak Date:February 10, 2018
Last Chart Date:August 4, 2018

Source:
Original: http://www.billboard.com/music/celtic-woman/chart-history/world-albums/song/1064450
Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20190929035431/http://www.billboard.com/music/celtic-woman/chart-history/world-albums/song/1064450



US iTunes chart

Days on Chart:2
Peak Position:98
Peak Date:January 26, 2018

Source:

Original:
http://www.itunescharts.net/us/artists/music/celtic-woman/
http://www.itunescharts.net/us/artists/music/celtic-woman/albums/homecoming-live-from-ireland/

Archived:
https://web.archive.org/save/http://www.itunescharts.net/us/artists/music/celtic-woman/
https://web.archive.org/save/http://www.itunescharts.net/us/artists/music/celtic-woman/albums/homecoming-live-from-ireland/




Week by Week

Billboard World Album Chart:

Week   of...         Chart Position

Feb 10, 2018      2
Feb 17, 2018      3
Feb 24, 2018      2

Mar 03, 2018      4
Mar 10, 2018      5
Mar 17, 2018      5
Mar 24, 2018      4
Mar 31, 2018      3

Apr 07, 2018      4
Apr 14, 2018      5
Apr 21, 2018      7
Apr 28, 2018      5

May 05, 2018      6
May 12, 2018      2
May 19, 2018      3
May 26, 2018      5

Jun 02, 2018      8
Jun 09, 2018      12
Jun 16, 2018      9
Jun 23, 2018      9
Jun 30, 2018      8

Jul 07, 2018      14
Jul 14, 2018      14
Jul 21, 2018      10
Jul 28, 2018      15

Aug 04, 2018      14
Aug 11, 2018      -
Aug 18, 2018      -
Aug 25, 2018      -
...

1965
Voices of Angels / Voices of Angels: Chart Performance
« on: March 07, 2018, 12:13:17 AM »
Album

Billboard World Albums chart

As of June 25, 2018

Weeks on Chart:   62
Debut Position:1
Peak Position:1
Weeks at #1:14
Chart Debut:December 10, 2016
Peak Date:December 10, 2016
Last Date on Chart:March 31, 2018

Sources:
Original: https://www.billboard.com/music/celtic-woman/chart-history/world-albums/song/1005208
Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20190929034455/https://www.billboard.com/music/celtic-woman/chart-history/world-albums/song/1005208


Billboard 200 chart

Weeks on Chart:   1
Peak Position:77
Weeks at Peak:1
Peak Date:December 10, 2016

Source:
Original: https://www.billboard.com/music/celtic-woman/chart-history/billboard-200/song/1005208
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20190929040254/https://www.billboard.com/music/celtic-woman/chart-history/billboard-200/song/1005208


Billoboard Classical Albums chart

As of June 25, 2018

Weeks on Chart:   75
Peak Position:1
Weeks at #1:5
Peak Date:December 10, 2016

Source: https://www.billboard.com/music/celtic-woman/chart-history/classical-albums/song/1005208
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20190929040726/https://www.billboard.com/music/celtic-woman/chart-history/classical-albums/song/1005208


Billoboard Classical Crossover Albums chart

As of June 25, 2018

Weeks on Chart:   48
Peak Position:1
Weeks at #1:7
Chart Debut:December 20, 2016
Peak Date:December 20, 2016
Debut Position:1

Source:
http://www.billboard.com/biz/search/charts


Billoboard Digital Albums chart

Weeks on Chart:   1
Peak Position:17
Peak Date:December 10, 2016

Source:
https://www.billboard.com/music/celtic-woman/chart-history/digital-albums/song/1005208


US iTunes chart

Peak Position:84
Peak Date:November 18, 2016

Source:

Original:
http://www.itunescharts.net/us/artists/music/celtic-woman/
http://www.itunescharts.net/us/artists/music/celtic-woman/albums/voices-of-angels/

Archived:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200429234515/http://www.itunescharts.net/us/artists/music/celtic-woman/
https://web.archive.org/web/20200430001402/http://www.itunescharts.net/us/artists/music/celtic-woman/albums/voices-of-angels/



Week by Week

Billboard World Albums

http://www.billboard.com/charts/world-albums

Week   of...         Chart Position

Dec 10, 2016      1
Dec 17, 2016      1
Dec 24, 2016      1
Dec 31, 2016      2            ... Voices of Angels #2, Hibernia #4, Destiny #5
Jan 07, 2017      1
Jan 14, 2017      1
Jan 21, 2017      1
Jan 28, 2017      2
Feb 04, 2017      1
Feb 11, 2017      2
Feb 18, 2017      3
Feb 25, 2017      1
Mar 04, 2017      3
Mar 11, 2017      2
Mar 18, 2017      4
Mar 25, 2017      1
Apr 01, 2017      2
Apr 08, 2017      2
Apr 15, 2017      2
Apr 22, 2017      2
Apr 29, 2017      1
May 06, 2017     1
May 13, 2017     2
May 20, 2017     2
May 27, 2017     3
Jun 03, 2017     1
Jun 10, 2017     3
Jun 17, 2017     2
Jun 24, 2017     2
Jul 01, 2017      3
Jul 08, 2017      1
Jul 15, 2017      2
Jul 22, 2017      4
Jul 29, 2017      2
Aug 05, 2017     6
Aug 12, 2017     5
Aug 19, 2017     6
Aug 26, 2017     6
Sep 02, 2017     2
Sep 09, 2017     4
Sep 16, 2017     7
Sep 23, 2017     1
Sep 30, 2017     4
Oct 07, 2017     7
Oct 14, 2017     6
Oct 21, 2017     7
Oct 28, 2017     6
Nov 04, 2017    11
Nov 11, 2017     -
Nov 18, 2017     15
...
Dec 16, 2017     8
Dec 23, 2017     4
Dec 30, 2017     4
Jan 03, 2018     3
Jan 06, 2018     4
Jan 13, 2018     11
Jan 20, 2018   14
Jan 27, 2018   -
Feb 03, 2018   14
Feb 10, 2018   -      
Feb 17, 2018   12
Feb 24, 2018   13
Mar 03, 2018   -
Mar 10, 2018   -   
Mar 17, 2018   13   
Mar 24, 2018   10
Mar 31, 2018   11
...


Billboard Classical Albums

http://www.billboard.com/charts/classical-albums

Week   of...         Chart Position

Dec 10, 2016      1
Dec 17, 2016      2
Dec 24, 2016      4
Dec 31, 2016      4
Jan 07, 2017      2
Jan 14, 2017      5
Jan 21, 2017      5
Jan 28, 2017      7
Feb 04, 2017      5
Feb 11. 2017      6
Feb 18. 2017      5
Feb 25. 2017      4
Mar 04. 2017      4
Mar 11, 2017      5
Mar 18, 2017      6
Mar 25, 2017      2
Apr 01, 2017      1
Apr 08, 2017      2
Apr 15, 2017      3
Apr 22, 2017      2
Apr 29, 2017      3
May 06, 2017      5
May 13, 2017      5
May 20, 2017      3
May 27, 2017      2
Jun 03, 2017      5
Jun 10, 2017      2
Jun 17, 2017      3
Jun 24, 2017      1
Jul 01, 2017      1
Jul 08, 2017      1
Jul 15, 2017      2
Jul 22, 2017      6
Jul 29, 2017      3
Aug 05, 2017     8
Aug 12, 2017     7
Aug 19, 2017     5
Aug 26, 2017     6
Sep 02, 2017     5
Sep 09, 2017     5
Sep 16, 2017     5
Sep 23, 2017     3
Sep 30, 2017     6
Oct 07, 2017     9
Oct 14, 2017     8
Oct 21, 2017     12
Oct 28, 2017     9
Nov 04, 2017     13
Nov 11, 2017     22
Nov 18, 2017     21
Nov 25, 2017     -
Dec 02, 2017     -
Dec 16, 2017     20
Dec 23, 2017     14
Dec 13, 2017     13
Jan 03, 2018     14
Jan 06, 2018     17
Jan 13, 2018     20
Jan 20, 2018     24
Jan 27, 2018     -
Feb 03, 2018     -
Feb 10, 2018     23
Feb 17, 2018     21
Feb 24, 2018     20
Mar 03, 2018     22
Mar 10, 2018     19
May 17, 2018     16
Mar 24, 2018     8
Mar 31, 2018     8
Apr 07, 2018     18
Apr 14, 2018     16
Apr 21, 2018     17
Apr 28, 2018     24
May 05, 2018     23
May 12, 2018     -
May 19, 2018     18
May 26, 2018     -
Jun 02, 2018     -
Jun 09, 2018     18
Jun 16, 2018     9
Jun 23, 2018     13
Jun 30, 2018     18



Billboard Classical Crossover

http://www.billboard.com/biz/search/charts

Week   of...         Chart Position

Dec 10, 2016      1
Dec 17, 2016      2
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